FactCheck: Biden, Ryan in the VP debates

Biden, Ryan in the VP Debates
October 12, 2012 8:15:07 PM PDT
More than 51 million people watched last night's vice presidential debate. Vice President Joe Biden and challenger Paul Ryan went at each other pretty hard, but were they accurate?

A lot of statements, facts, and figures were tossed out Thursday night. So we took a look at statements over embassy security, taxes and unemployment, but there's so much more malarkey.

A big part of the debate was over Medicare.

"Medicare and social security are going bankrupt. These are indisputable facts," said Ryan.

FactCheck: Ryan is right. The funds will run out of money, eventually, but that is if all the moving parts remain the same, which has never happened. Congress has made changes in order to keep the programs going.

"They got caught with their hands in the cookie jar, turning Medicare into a piggy bank for Obama Care. Their own actuary from the administration came to Congress and said one out of six hospitals and nursing homes are going to go out of business as a result of this."

FactCheck: Medicare's chief actuary didn't say providers would go out of business, what he said was 15 percent could become unprofitable, but he said the policy could be monitored to keep hospitals and nursing homes from going out of business. And Ryan's budget proposed the same $716 billion savings.

On the attacks in Benghazi, that took the life of Ambassador Chris Stevens, Biden plead ignorance.

"We weren't told they wanted more security there. We did not know they wanted more security," said Biden.

FactCheck: Biden is wrong. This week State Department officials testified they asked for more security and were denied. The White House said on Friday Biden was speaking for himself, not the administration.

On the subject of Iran's nuclear ambitions, Ryan said, "When Barack Obama was elected they had enough fissile material, nuclear material, to make one bomb. Now they have enough for five."

FactCheck: Ryan is wrong. Iran has built up its supply of nuclear material, but none of it is weapons grade and experts say the U.S. would likely know well in advance if Iran tried to enrich it for use in a nuclear bomb.

But all of this back and forth over whose facts do you believe is not what will decide the election says ABC7 News political analyst Bruce Cain, Ph.D. He says voters will be moved by what's ahead.

"It's going to be decided on which vision of how to proceed going forward is the one that the American public wants and so the facts have to be marshaled under a larger theme and I think both sides need to do that better than they have so far," said Cain.

Cain believes both the president and Gov. Romney need to articulate that vision. And what happened last night, just raised the stakes for the next debate.

The next presidential debate will be on Oct. 16 from 6-8 p.m. It will be a town hall format.

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